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Автор: Евгения, 24 сентября 2004 г. в 06:06

Это типа жеребец?

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Sofya
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
Вроде было "теплокровный"
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Екатерина Штатнова
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
Да, это "теплокровный". Как правило, относится к породе лошадей.
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Евгения
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
А, нашла!

Warmblood riding breed originating in the Alentejo province of Portugal. Known for its high knee action, fine bone, intellingence, high-strung temperament and use in equiation. Conformation characterized by a short arched neck, small head and close-coupled body.
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Евгения
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
There are only two types of “hot-blooded” horses in the world. These are the Thoroughbred and the Arabian. Draft horses are considered “cold-blooded.”

A good definition of a “warmblood” might be: “A Warmblood is a horse with at least 5 generations of recognized sport horse bloodlines and that has been inspected and registered by world-recognized breeding associations to excel in the sports of dressage and/or show jumping. “

The Europeans have for many generations been breeding horses that are very specialized to excel in show jumping and/or dressage. In order to make sure that the horses were of the best quality for these sports, both mares and stallions had to be presented for inspection and had to be approved for breeding in order for a foal to be given registration papers. In this way, only those horses exhibiting the best qualities were allowed to pass on their genes. It is true that in the far away beginnings and to develop these horses, some draft blood was initially used. And even today, some Thoroughbred and Arabian blood is sometimes used to lighten the horses. But these Thoroughbred and Arabian horses must first pass rigid inspection and be approved for use in the registry’s bloodlines.

The actual registries for these horses was, at first, regional in nature, since when this breeding began people had to use local stallions for the most part.
- Horses bred in Hannover, Germany, were registered as “Hannoverians.”
- Horses bred in Oldenburg were registered as “Oldenburgers.”
Occasionally, a stallion was sold from one region to another and, thus, a stallion registered in Hannover, Germany, as a “Hannoverian” might get sold to Holstein, Germany, and begin siring horses that were registered as “Holsteiners.”

This regional limitation in the bloodlines and the fact that each region had its own breeding goals and were breeding for certain qualities, resulted in there being an almost distinct type of horse within each registry. For example, the Hannoverian horses tended to be excellent, heavy-boned dressage types; the Holsteiners began to be lighter horses that excelled in show jumping.

As the world got smaller with the advent of better transportation and artificial breeding techniques, the bloodlines began to mix somewhat. Horses were bought and sold outside their region – even world-wide. America discovered them! Since the U.S. did not have such a breed of specialized horse of its own and the idea of inspections and approval before breeding was unheard of (!) here, the European registries were asked to “affiliate” with newly-forming North American registries that wished to follow the European criteria of inspection and approval and to use the same bloodlines. Instead of forming an “American Warmblood Registry” [yes, there is one – two, in fact - and I’ll get to that in a moment], the North Americans wanted to form North American counter-parts for the Hannoverian, Holsteiner, Oldenburg, Dutch, etc. registries, and to use the inspection criteria from Europe for each. Thus was born the American Hanoverian Society, the Oldenburg North America, the American Holsteiner Horse Association, etc.

In the beginning, the horses were imported from Europe. Then the Americans began breeding their own. Because most of the European registries allowed Thoroughbreds and Arabians (after strict inspection) to be used as breeding stock, and America had lots more of these horses than registered warmbloods, the Americans based much of their breeding program on these mares (especially Thoroughbred) and bred them to approved Warmblood stallions. The resulting foals were registered with the North American warmblood registry that had approved the mare (and with which the stallion was approved – more on that later). More and more European-bred warmbloods have been imported into North America and the Americans have begun breeding warmblood horses that are every bit as good as those found in Europe. If you own a horse born and branded in America as “Hanoverian,” “Oldenburg,” “Dutch,” “Holsteiner,” etc., you can be assured that you are getting a top quality horse that has been bred based on the stringent criteria of the Europeans.
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Екатерина Штатнова
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
Ну да, все правильно
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Capitalist pig
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
Хотите верьте, хотите нет:

Hot-bloodеd значит от Аrabians. Arabians из Arabian Peninsula, из жаркого климата. Thoroughbreds тоже считаются hot-blooded, потому что выведены из Арабов. Третья hot-blooded порода это Barb, из Марокко. Hot-blooded не значит горячий темперамент, хотя он конечно горячий.

Так вот, original породы в Европе cold-blooded - из холодного климата. А warmblood значит что порода выведена как результат смешения европейской породы с добавлением Аrabian или Thoroughbred. Barb не использовали.

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Julie Campbell
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
Интересно, а откуда такие сведения? Предоставьте ссылочку, если не секрет.
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Capitalist pig
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
Нет, не могу. Не помню где вычитал.
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Julie Campbell
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
жаль.
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Ольга К.
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
У нас еще переводят как "верховая" - по отношению к породе.
Неоднократно видела перевод "русская верховая" как Rus w/b = Russian warmblood.
PS Это не противопоставление тому, что Катя написала, скорее дополнение.
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Пузова Наталия
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
В данном примере был обратный перевод - с русского на английский.
warmblood - означает теполокровную, т.е. помесную, не ч/к породу
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Екатерина
7 апреля 2009, 01:04:35
Re: Как перевести правильно warmblood?
А жеребец, это типа stallion